"Speaking of which, I heard the King of England, the one they call the Conqueror, was recently excommunicated by this new Holy See," Berthold, the Duke of Carinthia, suddenly said.
Apparently, he somewhat agreed with Otto's point of view.
"Your news is out of date, Berthold. The Conqueror is already finished. His eldest son defeated him, in the name of the Holy See," said Welf.
"It seems, then, that this new Holy See has reached an agreement with the new King of England. He might provide aid to the Holy See. Perhaps we can ally with England," said Rudolph.
"That's too naive. Don't forget, didn't the Conqueror conquer England nine years ago in the name of the Holy See? And not long after, he turned his back on the previous Holy See, threw all his envoys out of England, and forbade his Archbishop from traveling to Rome to report.
