After The Joker met them, they found out that The Joker really does want the shell, but she herself does not seem to care about it that much; otherwise, she would not have pointed it out to them.
Sophie: "Ughh.....Where am I here?.."
The Joker: "Well...awake, my dear."
Sophie: "Joker....where am I...."
The Joker: "I took you...mmm...I wanted to take a closer look at you...Too bad I had to choose between you and Fiona...And too bad the handsome Siegfried isn't here...."
Sophie: "Hahh....What do you want from me?"
The Joker touched Sophie's shoulder with her hands. looked her in the eye and smile
Sophie: "Mm. What is...that. Hey."
The Joker: "...You need to sleep more, my dear..your skin is slowly no longer soft.."
Sophie: "Mmm....You yourself said that you are not...a lesbian."
The Joker: "I'm not either... hehe....Am I kissing you right now?"
Sophie: "No."
The Joker: "but ...if you wan."
Sophie: "Nooo!"
The Joker smiled, then started to sulk in a weird way
The Joker: "Heheh....Sophie....You need to know....The experiments they conducted on me....caused me to simply want to hurt the people I like or simply want to have them with me....hehe."
Sophie: "...Hahh.."
The Joker: "I know you see me as if I were a monster, and you're right...I am a monster..I have killed a lot of people, and I'll honestly tell you that it is fun..."
Sophie: "...No....I see you more as...a lone wolf.."
The Joker: "Hmm?"
Sophie: "I couldn't stand you.....but I don't hate you....that's not my way...Just because we are rivals doesn't mean we are enemies."
The Joker: "Rivals.....hahahahahahahaha.....Sophie.....How about.....you join us hunters."
Sophie: "No thanks. I don't want to drag innocent people into this."
The Joker: "Bla...bla...bla.....Sophie....I have a question....what...difference does it make if we...sacrifice innocent people for our goals...or if you...sacrifice innocent people for your goals?.... Just because you are a kind of recognized organization through governments?...hmph...My dear....Killing is killing....Whether you do it in the name of the government or not....what difference does it make if I...kill an innocent person for the Hunters...or if you kill an innocent person for the Dark Umbrella?"
Sophie: "Ugh....Uh.."
The Joker: "I'll tell you one thing...Sophie.....It has nothing to do with morality...it only comes down to...some are allowed to do more than others..that's all. It was never about...what it is about....but rather....who it is about...Who does it.....A police officer killed a child because of his food...a few days ago.....No trial...Nothing....is that justice?....."
Sophie: "Ugh...."
The Joker: "He had stolen food....and was shot because of it...if I.....had been the one who killed the child...the whole city would have gone crazy.....Not because the child is dead... No, because otherwise they would have threatened the police officer too.....but no.....Because it would have been me and not him.....Remember that, Sophie....it isn't about...what someone does....but rather....which person does it."
She stroked Sophie's cheek.
The Joker: "Hehe..."
Sophie: "Mmm..."
The Joker: "You from the Dark Umbrella....have killed people too.....Innocent people."
Sophie: "...I...haven't...Fiona hasn't...no one from Lilly Mond..."
The Joker: "Hehehe...but you work for an organization that has done such things...You see, Sophie...that's why...I have to say.....I asked Fiona the same question....and..hehe...it seems Fiona is different from you.....She knows she isn't a good person or an evil one... but she isn't a good person...she said there was no difference...murder is...murder.....You, on the other hand, try to make it different.....and that's okay too...Sophie.....The difference is...quite simple...You, Sophie.....know that it isn't good....That's why you don't want to admit it...but Fiona knows this and accepts that the Dark Umbrella sometimes does questionable things...."
Sophie: "Okay... have you ever helped people?"
The Joker smiled slightly, then let Sophie down from the wall.
The Joker: "So...sit next to me...Sophie..Come on...don't be mean....yeah?"
Sophie: "Ughh.....yeah..sure.."
She sat down.
The Joker: "....You just asked if we helped people?...Do you know the last time I helped a person...."
She pointed at a wound on her neck.
The Joker: "...They slit my throat."
Sophie: "Ughh...."
The Joker: ".....It was back then when the government of San Guimereas sent us Dark Officers to eliminate some...well....people....There...was the woman....with her child..I don't know why?....but....I hid them....But....barely....when it was all over and I returned.....the first thing I saw was this...bitch....slashing a knife across my throat..."
Sophie: "Ughh..."
The Joker: "Hehehe....What do you say now, hmm?.... My dear.....Sophie....Something like being kind...is a trap.....The kinder you are...the more people take advantage of you... because they know...they know it through the looks in your eyes.....Through the way you act and your facial expressions."
She gently touched Sophie's cheek with her hand.
The Joker: "...It's the same with you, isn't it..."
Sophie: "Ugh."
The Joker: "...Why were you...thrown out of the Crows?..... Tell me."
Sophie: "How do you know that?"
The Joker: "When we arrived at your apartment, I searched your room...Because you....are too kind....Right?"
Sophie: "Ugh."
The Joker: "What do you think..Why does Lilly Mond do cruel things to you or often tries to do these things without you..Lina, for example, once killed someone to protect you... Why does Fiona like you so much?...hmm?....Why do you think Fiona does...cruel things for you...she wants to protect you..she knows you can't live with it. She can... because she has always been seen as a monster... the cold detective.....but I'll tell you right now...is that really kindness?"
Sophie: "Ugh."
The Joker: "Other people...doing cruel things....so that you don't have to do them yourself....You know..Fiona may look cold....but....while sleeping..she always cries.....Because in her sleep...she can't control her mind... and gives in..."
Sophie: "Ugh."
She briefly stroked her hair.
The Joker: "Are you...ready..to do cruel things for your group...if necessary?"
Sophie: "Ughh."
The Joker: "....Lina is a veteran...she is used to it....Violet used to be a robber....But what about someone like Rosika....Do you want her to do cruel things for you too?.... Isn't it enough that Fiona... suffers....and cries...every night..You call me a monster?... I have wiped Fiona's and Lina's tears at night...both...suffer from severe trauma...both..cry every day when you aren't looking....and where were you?...You'd rather take care of people you don't know?..."
Sophie: "Ugh....I....I do care about them."
The Joker: "Of course... nobody said otherwise, dear....But still....."
She held her hand.
Sophie: "Ugh."
The Joker: "Lina and Fiona....don't want to see this beautiful hand covered in another person's blood.....Nobody says that you don't care about others....but....I have a question now.....what would you do....if you had to kill someone to help Lina or Fiona or anyone from Lilly Mond.....Lina..and Fiona would do it for you without batting an eye....You?...you will tremble.....and won't dare to do it.....It's a miracle you've made it this far...hehe...."
Sophie: "What do you actually want from me?"
The Joker: "What I want."
She went to her ear.
The Joker: "...I want...to finally see these innocent hands..kill someone innocent....A civilian.....no..forget it...a robber....a criminal..whatever....I have to say, even though I like you...it disgusts me.....that you still think this world deserves kind people.hmph.....Everyone takes advantage of you....except Lilly Mond; they protect themselves for exactly that reason...that's exactly why Lina and Fiona....have sacrificed people for you.....but they should be the ones crying instead of you...Is that okay!"
Sophie: "Ugh."
Sophie fell to the floor.
Sophie: ".....Hhhhh..."
The Joker: "...You aren't kind...you're a coward.....difference..Sophie... a big difference.....Between not killing because you're kind..or not killing because you're a coward...."
Sophie: "Stop.....stop.....Please.."
She held her head.
Sophie: "...Hh."
The Joker: "How many times will people die because of your cowardice...your parents have already become victims of it....Who else?..huh!.."
Sophie: "Stop."
The Joker: "How many times will others have to do the dirty work for you....so that you can live with your conscience.....while they can't sleep at night or shed tears.....huh!!"
Sophie: "Stop... please.."
The Joker: ".....Being kind.....is one of those things that either makes people suffer or makes others kill...You suffer because people took advantage of you for it...And others suffer because you aren't willing...to kill....you work for the Dark Umbrella...don't be a coward."
Sophie: "Ghhh."
She stood up and pushed Joker.
Sophie: "I'm not a coward!...."
The Joker: "Hehh."
Sophie: ".....I...am just trying...to be there for the others....When nobody...nobody in the group smiles....or...is caring toward the others...what will happen to them....I don't like smiling; I hate smiling. I hate it because I actually want to cry!.. but I do it for the others.....so that they...don't have to worry...and you call me a coward...I'm sad too....I am willing to kill....I am willing to kill for my friends...."
The Joker: "Then prove it!..."
Sophie: "Ugh..."
The Joker: ".....Kill for the people you love....I'm not saying you should stop smiling....."
She held Sophie's cheek.
The Joker: "....because I like that too.....your smile..is so beautiful, it brings warmth....The warmth that I like... the warmth that Lina and it wants to protect.....The warmth that makes Fiona want to protect it too because she likes the warmth that gives people warmth....but you are too kind...that will destroy you in this world.....it will eat you up...from the inside. It will make your heart.....bleed.."
Sophie: "Ughh..."
The Joker: "Remember this finally.....Why do you think many people stop smiling, hmm?... Why do you think Lina doesn't smile because she sees how cruel the world is...why do you think Fiona stopped smiling....because she sees that the world is cruel....Why do you think The Finger doesn't smile.....We...all...know the true face of people..that's why!..and you...must finally also...wake up....Otherwise you won't be able to handle it someday...."
Sophie: "...Mm..."
The Joker: "You feel sad because of your parents..My parents only brought me into this world for the experiments.....My mother didn't love me.....Lina's mother died in the war....Fiona doesn't even know her parents.....Rosika's parents disappeared without a trace; everyone suffers.....in their own way.....you don't have to force yourself to smile for others.....I'm sure...everyone will be there for you in Lilly Mond even if you don't smile...because they don't love you because of your smile..they love you because you are Sophie...."
Sophie: "...Oh yeah..how would you know that, you are a monster!"
The Joker: "That I am...but you can't pretend that it isn't so...You think Lina loves you because of your smile?..you think Fiona protects you because of your smile..or Rosika trusts you because of your smile.....I don't smile either; nobody trusts me.....The difference is....I am The Joker, and you are Sophie.."
Sophie: "Ugh..."
The Joker: "Hmm?"
Sophie said nothing....
Sophie: ".....Hmm..."
The Joker: "....Hahh, nobody says you shouldn't be kind anymore...Sophie....What I mean is...just....that you shouldn't overdo it.....Otherwise you will suffer in the end.....Otherwise your friends will suffer too....because then they will violate their conscience for you....."
Sophie: "...Mmm....."
The Joker: "Hmm?..Sophie.."
Sophie gently punched Joker's chest with her fist...several times.
The Joker: "Sophie?"
Sophie: "....That's mean.....that's mean...."
(A Few Minutes Later)
Sophie: "....Hmm..."
(Crash!)
Rosalie: "Sophie?!"
Fiona: "Sophie!!!!"
They called out.
The Joker: "Ohh...your friends are looking for you...."
Sophie: "...Joker....."
Joker wanted to leave... She looked at Sophie one more time...gave her a kiss on the forehead...and walked away, looking back over her shoulder as she left.
The Joker: "....I'm still a hunter, my dear..hehe...and a monster...Don't miss me...."
She walked away. She looked at her with a smile and Laugh a little nasty
(Crash!)
The door was broken.
Sophie: "Ugh."
Rosalie: "Huh. There she is."
Fiona: "Sophie!"
Sophie only looked toward her...Fiona ran toward her.
Sophie: "Huh."
Fiona: "Are you okay, my goodness....I was worried about you...."
Sophie: "I'm...fine....really."
Fiona: "Hahhh...."
She hugged her.
Sophie: "Mmm....."
Fiona: "I thought Joker had..."
Rosalie: "My goodness..what are you doing here all alone... uhm....where is your jacket?"
Sophie: "Huh?..."
She looked at herself... she was only wearing an undershirt and short pants.
Rosalie: "Uhm...Sophie?"
Fiona: "..who..has your clothes."
Sophie: "...Hehe.....Hehehehehe....."
She started laughing.
Rosalie: "Huh?"
Fiona: "Huh?....Sophie...."
Sophie: "Oh dear.....Apparently Joker also wanted to see something from me..Not just my mind..."
Rosalie: "Huh?"
Fiona: "Uhm....Joker?.."
Sophie: ".....I'm sorry, you two...You must have been worried...."
Fiona: "Sophie."
Sophie touched Fiona's cheek.
Sophie: "Don't worry...Fiona.....I'm fine..."
Fiona: "Ugh...did...something happen..Sophie..."
Sophie: "No."
She walked past her. With a Smile on her face seems everthing is fine.
Sophie: "Let's go."
Rosalie: "Uh....sure.."
Fiona: "Okay."
Sophie walked ahead..and looked... serious.
Sophie: "(....This time.....I will be...the one who kills for you.....Don't worry, Lina..Fiona and my friends....Thank you....Joker.)...."
(Meanwhile)
The Joker: "Hmmm...A beautiful jacket.....I definitely had to take it...there is also her scent inside...I'll keep it with love... hehe....Let's see...Sophie....Will you finally be ready to get your hands dirty for the people who matter to you.....Haaahhhhh...just imagining it....makes my heart feel so warm."